When Bill goes to the hospital, he asks to see patient Amanda Curren (sp), the name he saw in the newspaper. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AzOnnrAlE8, http://www.celebsvideoarchive.com/videos/Julienne%20Davis/index.html, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvNO0BfBecc. 2. -----Richard Schultz [email protected] of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, IsraelOpinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University-----"It would have been like discussing sundials with a bat. The big question is how did the mask get there, and who left it? >> >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? And the redeemer's pubic hair is also trimmed the same. Let's get out of here.You're my witness. Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. He wasn't positive. It was a > party nevertheless. WebChords for Backward Priests, normal version of Masked Ball Eyes wide shut with lyrics. I recognized the voice of the mysterious woman first time I saw the film. This is simple. This is the implication of Dream Storytoo - with the movie being quite faithful to the structure of the novella - though Kubrick obviously leaves this moment up to interpretation. <<<<<<<>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>wearingmasks? WebI n the film "Eyes Wide Shut", who was the masked woman that redeemed Tom Cruise's character? That is a possible explanation. ", > I'm sorry, but this has to be said: I'm pretty sure I know what you, > mean,> but the way you're saying it is silly. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. And if this firgure was Ziegler, why would he subsequentlysend a naked masked woman over to Bill for his benefit? The way Zeigler confirms it was Mandy is matter of fact and it isn't as though Bill seemed surprised at this--even if the audience might still be confused. I am ready 10 Stanley Kubricks Sudden Death. In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, subliminally. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I > know.". <<<<<<<<, > In the spur of the moment people might first recognize voices, > subliminally. It was in the trailer or a TV spot. Statanic mass? "My Sex Slave video with Chinese subtitles"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjMIROKzH7s, ZKD 788-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4N4vSijHTM, Im Treibhaus (Wesendonck Lieder) - Richard Wagner - Faynehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOhxWdGuQd4, When he claps his hands together. What's going on?>> Wasn't the woman in the mask a lot skinnier than the ODd woman?? He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because it> gives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerful> position - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing to> the demands and realities of Ziegler's world). >>Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >>see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >>together.>, > These last points I've already covered>. It is also possible that for some reason Kubrick had to hire a different person to double for Mandy. Poor pitiful morons that we all are -thank Bog he's put off Nirvana for so long. Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in adepressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethaldrug overdose. What does the mask on the pillow at the end of Eyes Wide Shutmean? If the woman in the mask had been the same woman as Mandy, you would have expected some recognition of that from Doctor Cruise. >>>>>>>>>>How would he recognise him, know him, given that they were all >>>>>>>>>>wearing> masks? Isn't that - again - amazing; except that you're not even unfortunateenough to have a mindless head, given the large quantities ofbubblewrap - and nothing else - between your ears take care, MrKelpless. As opposed to arborescent: two contrasting concepts central to muchphilosophical debate over the past few decades (see, for instance, thework of philosophers Deleuze and Guattari). > that unless they are encoded in single frames for analysis will alwasy be > a mystery. '<<<<<<<<<<< I think it is clear he was > referring to the Somerton party. If we try > to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries and > much conjecture. >He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is >somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. Somerton could hardly be > >>>>>> described (and. WebIn Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut, the protagonist Bill arrives at a secret party/orgy: Shortly after arriving, he is warned by a masked woman to leave ASAP. > But the credits have Abigail Good as> "mysterious woman" and Julienne Davis as Mandy. It's just idiotic. Indeed, he appearsthoroughly confused: later with Ziegler in the poolroom, he asks, "thewoman at the party is the woman lying dead in the morgue." >> When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"> but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him at> the orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? > Even Sk was not perfect in that way-----or was hethere is another > mystery. It is only when Ziegler respondspositively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman inthe morgue?" in fact if you look very closely, Mandy on the Slab, winks. WebSleep Mask for Women, Eye Mask for Sleeping Blindfold Block Out Light and Relieves Dry Eyes with Extra Gel Beads Pad,Super Smooth and Flower Patterns 4.4 4.4 out of 5 stars <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. Clearly, of course,the Somerton ritual is a mirror of Ziegler's party (with each event inmany ways serving as the 'truth' of the other): whether its Mandy atthe party or at the ritual or at both, the outcome is still the same:a corpse in a morgue. But he still wasn't sure after reading the news story, or even aftervisiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanationindicated. Padraig has been writing about film online since 2012, when a friend asked if he'd like to contribute the occasional review or feature to their site. >Bill was not yet sure it was Mandy from the bathroom, till he happened to >see the news story and saw the name "Amanda," then it started to come >together. Again. ". And coming from the newsgroup'sresident acid-headed, solipsistic zombie. The most obvious answer is Alice found the mask and left it out as a way to let Bill know she knew something was going on. >> First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was> showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. Imay bewrong, but I think Kubrick intended it that way. >>>>>>>>If this were really thecase, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to themasked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" Which all suggests that Ziegler didn't actually knowabout Bill's presence at Somerton until he removed his mask >> If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. He's eventually discovered and forced to remove his mask but is saved from a bleak fate by another masked woman who tried to warn him to leave earlier. This website has Julienne Davis listed with photos--in all three scenes! The vagueness is intentional, but I think it is clear that it was Mandy all along, although apparently there was a body double for some scenes. Please either stop > or> shape up. at the > ceremony/orgy. Somerton could hardly be> >>>>>> described (and>> certainly not by Bill) as a 'party. But the worst thing is your silly and smug arrogance. I never said Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when > we study it. Eyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubrick's final movie starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, but what does the mask on the pillow near the end mean? Its common sense he was referring to Somerton as the party. They paid off the desk cleark to tell Bill, that Nick was being roughed up, or perhaps the clerk is one of those men dancing with men at the ceremony/orgy and in fact Mandy, although on the slab was not really dead. Barcaluv. People often don't make definitive connections between things at the moment. Those critics of EWS must have > been delerious. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film's> critics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,> desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidy> denouement? <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > It's "clear," after studying the film after many viewing.>, > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Ziegle'sr story here once again, and then retrospectively> interpellating and internalising it, re-interpreting all the earlier> events of the film in strict accordance with his frankly deeply> suspect account? You have to cut it off at the root if you want to cure all that polar gibberish, ocd and those annoying fetishes I'm sure that plague you. Nevertheless, those two recollections(one of a fantasy, one of a dream) constitute the very desire whoseexclusion (from the quotidian, commonsensical, 'social reality' of theHarfords' marriage) the film is exploring. Why would he demand that she take off> her mask if this were so? http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/japanese-zen/. Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays her voice in his head while looking over the body. There are many aspects of it that ARE still a > mystery such as I was suggesting with the costume. He then breaks down crying and confesses to Alice his misadventures of the past few days. for the morgue scene but it is still meant to be the same Mandy. Carolin Ruwe, in her book Symbols in Stanley Kubrick's Movie 'Eyes Wide Shut', argues that the mask is the prime symbol of the film. But he can't know for sure (because she wasmasked at Somerton). I think the voice would have rung a bell and the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so he was in shock. <<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>If this were really the> case, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to the> masked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" There are many, many readings of the story available, with the movie itself embracing a sort of dream/nightmare logic. > Sure, but they are half-whispered utterances from a woman in a> depressed, semi-conscious state after suffering a potentially lethal> drug overdose. But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the eventsat Somerton as a 'party.'<<<<<<<. ", "I saw her body in the morgue. These ceremonies must have been a big customenr for his former patient. We could say that even Nick was in on it and the phone call to Nick in the Jazz club was a set up to pique Bill's interest, even letting Bill knows the password. When we see the news article about dead Mandy, it says "Beauty Queen"but how did Bill know that was the same woman who ODd or helped him atthe orgy, since he never knew the real name of either? > Mandy was not the same woman. (meaning the Mysterious woman) "victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the women at the party, well victor, maybe i'm missing something heyou call it a Charadetell me what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". >>>>>>>>>> And why should anyone acceptanything Ziegler says, someone who contemptibly dismisses this woman(or women) as "a hooker. ), Stalepie writes:"the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. That is what she was" implying that her deathis of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Zieglerchooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by theZieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by hisdesire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" Ironically, that is just what power (and Ziegler)would want you to believe - that the world of power and power elitesdoesn't exist, is just all a charade anyway, that those who dorecognise the realities of social power and of desire are justparanoid conspiracy nutters (when in fact it is those whoattribute all that occurs in the film to 'a dream' who are beingproperly paranoid). The official cause of death was from a heart attack. > slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? And of course how did > the mask get on his pillow? If it was all a elaborate part of Bill's initiation into the order. while walking down one of the NY streets, the background glowsbeautifucally. Related: Every Stanley Kubrick Movie Ranked, Worst To Best. Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. (meaning > the Mysterious woman), ME"So..Victor the woman lying dead at the morgue was the> women at the party, well Victor, maybe i'm missing something > but what kind of Charade ends up with someone dead.". > the same time, being simple and concrete. And isn't this the mistake that many of the film'scritics made, reading Ziegler's story as 'ruining' the mystery,desublimating the film's narrative by means of an all-neat-and-tidydenouement? The masked woman was played by a different actor but is the samecharacter. When Bill asks what, she simply responds, "Fuck." Eyes Wide Shut developed after Stanley Kubrick read Arthur Schnitzler's Dream Story in 1968, when Kubrick was looking for a project to follow 2001: A Space Odyssey. Kubrick was interested in adapting the story, and with the help of journalist Jay Cocks, bought the filming rights to the novel. It's not like he is going to voice all his thoughts. I trhink Steven Lizberger is right. A part-time hobby soon blossomed into a career when he discovered he really loved writing about movies, TV and video games; he even (arguably) had a little bit of talent for it. we talked about this about 8 years ago on this newsgroup . and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing this," Mandy says, "Ya." She helps Bill at the >, but, besides that you're> not bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using them> serves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. As 1999 approached, what little was known about Eyes Wide Shut was almost indecently tantalising. -- Fred Brooks, I think I saw the "Rhizomatic" for sale on TV Late last night. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, "I know." Statanic mass? The goal of yoga practice was to STOP all that useless babble---because that is how a person actually makes the breakthrough to see reality as it is. Even had Alice found it in the cadenza, would she have recognized it as meaningful and taken it? But then, Ziegler's 'explanation', his retconningof past events, only serves to further propel Bill into subjectivedestitution, another 'replay' of Bill's unmasking at Somerton, Zieglerpower-presiding over Bill's position and status at a red pool-tablemuch like Red Cloak presided over the power ritual on a red carpet atSomerton. This is still a mystery. I found them both disappointing. Some will sink but we will float.Grab your coat. Now that's out of the way, a brief introduction. He is not exactly voicing his thoughts. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. There's like a billion posts here at alt.movies.kubrick and you cansearch the archives for this information. Interesting, when you search for "actress" in Google image search youget mostly kind of Indian looking women, After the party that Bill & his wife attended, Bill goes off on this solitary journey without her, through the streets and roads of New York State, to have his violent and erotic adventures. Is that how youwould describe it? :>I thought this film was much less interesting than the competing film. Harry, you are calling him a troll for criticizing your manic, vain and pretentious word salad? <<<<<<<<<<<>. WebThere are constant hints throughout the film of it being a story about one man's ego and insecurities. Desire is always the desire of theOther our dreams constituring the realisation of desire. He also must have recognized the voice, considering that her voice is somewhat deep and throaty with a tinge of distinctive accent. Nah, the only dreams in the movie are the one that Alice tells to Billand then Bill "daydreams' (thinks about) her having sex with thatsailor. So, they joined Snctm because they heard it was the best of the best in the It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning theidentities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps anddeadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just likeZiegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' ofevents. Orgy? I'm sorry, but this has to be said: I'm pretty sure I know what you mean, but the way you're saying it is silly. Much of what we have seen is Bill's non-verbal reactions to all this, which is full of shock and bewilderment. But it isn't clear at all, and nobody in the film refers to the eventsat Somerton as a 'party.' There's also search enginessuch as Google where you can search for information. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<, ME> You can identify Pollack's eyes and chin quite easily in the close ups.>. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. The rhizomatic uncertainties anduncanny inconsistencies multiply And it is not immediately clearwhether Bill connects this Amanda to the masked woman at Somerton orto the overdosed Mandy in Ziegler's bathroom. Yes, the three scenes - at Ziegler's party, at the Somerton ritualthe following night, and at the hospital morgue the next day - thatfeature Mandy/the 'masked woman' - remain ambiguous to the end. Regardless of the different actresses in the credits, what I see is that the woman at the ceremony, who redeems him, apparently the "mysterious woman," has a small freckle/mole on her chest about 2 inches to her left side of center, above her breasts, which I think, can also be seen slightly on the corpse. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, >> "I know.">. ME> Again. NG was :>the realization of that potential. - Ziegler> wasn't concerned about her health, just eager to get rid of her so as> to avoid any potential social embarrassment, "Bill, this is just> between us").>>> What is interesting is that the film's very ambiguity concerning the> identities of the three women (Mandy, masked woman, woman in morgue),> sets up a desire to 'fill in' all the film's narrative gaps and> deadlocks, a desire to shut down such uncertainty, to give - just like> Ziegler - an easy, 'commonsensical' black and white 'explanation' of> events. >> First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he >> was showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom.>, > Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professional> doctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety than> about Mandy's actual wellbeing. at the> ceremony/orgy. But it is obvious from Kubrick's portrayal of Somerton that thewomen are there purely as sex-workers, are there toservice the inner sanctum of male patriarchy in the ritualized desire-space of the power elite at Somerton. >Even in the morgue he still might not have been positive, but he replays >her voice in his head while looking over the body. How manypayments of $19.99 was that, again?-- "History is a lie agreed upon." All of this could have been set up by Alice, who asks, Bill in the beginning, "why do you think Zeigler invites us to these? It's pronounced Paw-rick, not Pad-raig. > But I agree the way it is done is brilliant and it leaves all of us unsure > of everything, opening up infinite possibilites as to what it all means. While the final movie was greeted with somewhat mixed reviews at the time, the appreciation for Eyes Wide Shut has only grown since its 1999 debut. No comments. <<<<<<<<<<<<<>. If it'ssupposed to be obvious, then why is it treated as such a great revelation,and why is a character who is presented as being reasonably intelligentso dense as not to see it? He didn't recognise her voice. > Take another listen. that Bill first makes this connection, or at least, hasit confirmed by someone else (Ziegler)", Ditto. I never siad Bill recognized him.we get to recognize him when we study it. reinforced bythe simple observation that you have never actually posted here before[at least under your supplied handle/ID]. The film centers on a profoundly unsatisfied couple tied together not by pure love, but by social convenience and appearances. (3) With the advent of cyberspace, and just simple disinterest many newspaper companies have gone under. How doesshe know this? After Dr. Bill Harford's wife, Alice, admits to having sexual fantasies about a man she met, Bill becomes obsessed with having a sexual encounter. It's profoundly, structurally, indeterminate >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense ofanything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligiblemumbling),<<<. And if it's *not* supposed to be obvious, thatmeans that Polanski screwed up. Somerton could hardly be described (andcertainly not by Bill) as a 'party.' Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? At what point do we decide whether Corpse Mandy's very slight, single frame, mini-wink and subsequent eye movement was intended? I am normally the last guy in the> world to criticize somebody for using big words. The 'mystery' is how SHE knows that he is an interloper. Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? The (unnamed) woman in the mask who warns Doctor Cruise is the same woman who ends up dead in the morgue. Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - Julienne Davis. > First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was > showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. The rhizomatic uncertainties and> > uncanny inconsistencies multiply > following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface. and she > replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," > Mandy says, "I know." WebOne of the masked women warns him he is in terrible danger. I actually had to look that up. In a case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his mind, but he was kinda busy. Perhaps Alice was already attending these rituals and this was a way to gently break in stuffy and repressed Bill to this new found club and part of his initiation. --Napoleon. Ha ha hah, ha ha hah! ANSWER. Deleuze probably realized how stupid he was before he jumped out that window. Orgy? > it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." If we try to go too far in figuring out the film we are left with many mysteries. How? >>on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to >>him. What a mish mash of mental masturbation that is.. Psycho-semi-freudian-lacanisn-junkie-marxist babbling. and she replies, "Better," and then when Bill says, "you are a very lucky girl," Mandy says, "I know." >>>>>>>>>>>>And didn't Ziegler subsequently admit that the Somerton people> only learned of Bill's identity as a result of becoming suspicious of> his manner of arrival and the costume-rental receipt in his coat> pocket?<<<<<<<<<<<<<, > So maybe they were all wearing walkie talkies under those masks, what do, > you want me to say?..no, this IS left as a huge mystery. So is Ziegler lying? The twenty-something woman confirmed she and her partner Leonard are polyamorous. Mandy was not the same woman. > He didn't recognise her voice. news:[email protected] > Harry writes: (seen on google)>> >>> 1. so drugged out as to have been clearly incapable of making sense >> >>> of>>> anything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligible >> mumbling),<<<>, >> No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare >> kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" If this were really thecase, wouldn't Bill have recognised that voice when speaking to themasked woman at Somerton, instead of asking her "Who are you?" > certainly not by Bill) as a 'party. We need some upstart director and SK devotee who can channel SK, to Make EWS part 2. Please either stop orshape up. >>In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is)>, > So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figure> on the basis of his eyes?<<<<<<<<<<<<, > This is simple. First of all, Mandy must have felt some connection with Bill since he was showing her concern and kindness in the Bathroom. and then Bill says, "..you can't keep doing >> this," Mandy says, "Ya." Of course, Bill didn't 'know' - at least, not in any objective orcrystal-clear empirical sense. Bill in that scene was simply behaving as a (not very) professionaldoctor; and he seemed just as concerned about Ziegler's anxiety thanabout Mandy's actual wellbeing. andpleading with her to take off her mask? WebThe bodies of more completely nude masked women assail Bills voyeuristic eyes (and those of the audience). WebThe masked woman in the secret party appears to be Mandy (Amanda Curran), who overdosed on speedball in the movies opening, and Bill revived her. Yes, and we could speculate even further: there are no dream sequenceswhatsoever in the film, Alice's story about the navel officer being arecollection of her past desires, not a portrayed dream as such atall. 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