When I press the slide release it loads just fine. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. It should close by itself. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. You cannot paste images directly. I have never really seen the need for an "armorer" when working with my Glocks. This is also why I ended up trying the Timney. Kinda weird. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Haha.). Slide not fully returning to battery while trigger hasn't been reset (G19) So I have a G19, cerakoted slide. This, in all cases with any new firearm, is a fundamental error. Thanks. Have you tried it with the factory barrel? To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. Another dumb question is are you intimately familiar with taking the gun part and putting it back together? can your extractor move freely? try firing it. Im planning on a press as my next significant purchase. first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Turns out I reinstalled the takedown lever backwards. It's always good to close the loop when a problem is discussed. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. Its the archer not the arrow i know, but i was immediately more accurate with the timney. If you can get it to be smooth with a clean and consistent break, the pull will still be 5 to 5.5 pounds. What is the length of your round, bullet type, and powder/charge for the reload? sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Wish I could look at it directly. Any . Oh its not a logical move. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. None of my other Glocks do it. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. This may sound crazy but if you or a buddy have a tac light slip it on the rail and try firing again. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. I bought the G19 new, and ive never torn the slide down. Lots of creep, but that is by design. You cannot paste images directly. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. Ok, then 2k rounds isn't outside the realm of possibility for the spring to start failing the spring test. It had 2056 through it. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. Just wanted to point out that you can limp wrist with both hands on the gun and if everything is stock like you said, and you truly believe it has only been fired once, I default to user error. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Looking for help. Got back to the range today happened a little less (still did not get any factory ammo yet) After looking at the slide there is some ware marks at some points and thinking maybe this might be little to thick on the coating i could be wrong just a thought. I can swap the sli. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. How much did you need to take off? AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. and Mrs. America turn in your guns' - I would have!". All Rights Reserved. I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Check for it. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. It won't load a round. I took the gun apart this morning and the screw that holds the timney sear housing in the Glock housing was loose. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. Here's how you can test if it's a recoil spring issue: 1 With the pistol empty, pull the trigger, and keep the trigger depressed. Usually, what the OP is describing is a problem somewhere else in the gun. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Benjamin Franklin. If I sling shot the slide it works fine but I can't remember any of my other Glocks having problems getting them to go back into battery while riding the slide(when dry firing). check the recoil spring. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I would pull and hold the trigger, rack the slide and it wouldn't return completely to battery until I released some tension on the trigger. Its light but mushy. While you are on our site, don't forget to check out our Glock Frame Disassembly, Glock Frame Reassembly, Glock Slide Disassembly and Reassembly as well as Glock Field Strip videos to learn more about the Glock pistols. When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. I had the luxury of multiple Glocks to fall back on, though. I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. When I say it won't go back into battery I mean when I hand cycle the slide and let it down easy. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. If the slide goes into battery with this test, you've got other issues. I guess it's best to keep a couple spare recoil springs for the G26 just in case. Several years ago a local Glock shooter told me Lone Wolf is what he used. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I am not LE but I was able to take the course just had to drive a hour to where they were having it. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. When you are normally shooting, your trigger is still pulled back when the slide returns. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. JavaScript is disabled. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. It appears that the safety plunger spring was laying sideways instead of inside the safety plunger. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. Did you completely strip the frame when you changed connectors or just the trigger assembly? Hopefully that's all it was. I haven't had a chance to try a stock magazine yet. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. I have noticed that my G26 spring has been failing the recoil spring test.as of late. I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. I am still useing the stock recoil spring and striker spring. Do the RSA's need lube? Timney should be a little more straightforward with their instructions. What happens when you let the slide slam forward? Everything else seems to be working fine. Thanks for the info. I may have to get out a Glock and take a look. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. Your link has been automatically embedded. One new winner* is announced every week! The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. No reason to leave the plantation because the Timney would not work out in your Glock. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. Powered by Invision Community. We also have Glock related articles like Tools Used . With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. One mag in particular was the worst. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. Any ideas on what the issue might be? Thank you! Unlike aftermarket the factory connectors are true drop in and usually dont need adjustments. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." You must log in or register to reply here. My current set-up is a glockstore tungsten guide rod w/ 13lb spring, TTI Grand Master spring and connector kit, and SRO on a forward controls design plate. I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. How are you sending the slide forward? Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. Thank you for that great info! Also do you have another 17 handy? no Go on the back plate do not have one.. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. Let not my last thought be If only I had my gun; and Lord if today is truly the day that You call me home, let me die in a pile of empty brass. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. If it were me I would use a calipers to take some measurements of your OEM slide rail slots from front to back versus your new Suarez slide front to back,I suspect you will discover differences. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I have 2 Timneys installed, one on a 34.4 & 34.3. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. In using it, ive experienced several failure to fires. Handy to have this around while you're tinkering A forum community dedicated to all New York firearm owners and enthusiasts. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. "If I could have banned them all - 'Mr. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. Building a V2 soon. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. If it does, its hitting that bump too high. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. I'm guessing if the OP was shooting reloads this may have been the problem. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Your load seems fine to me - adequate for a typical Glock 19 to operate well. I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. By so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. Yes i am. It will keep the gun just out of battery when reversed. No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Your previous content has been restored. But about 1-2 rounds out of 100 it wouldnt quite go in to battery and Id need to tap the back of the slide slightly to seat it (started off at like 3 in 5 rounds). I had this with my first gen P80. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. I haven't fired it yet, but all of the dry functions now work as well as the recoil spring test!!! I just push it a fraction of an inch with my thumb, and it's good to go. I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. Im curious to see what the hype is about but getting rid of my Glocks isnt a consideration. Break it in!!! Have you tried shooting it? Eject it. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. If this is only an issue when easing the slide forward than it may not be an issue at all. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. I just made the switch to CO from Production with my 34.5 MOS. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." By Any update on this? Is this RSA going to $hit already? Win A Colt 1911 Tomb Of The Unknown Soldier 45acp, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. Everything is right in the world of Glock again. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You should buy one of these if you don't already have one. Glock OEM triggers are generally crappy even after polishing, but they are reliable. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. It is one of the dual captured springs, so there doesn't appear to be much that can be done to "fix" anything. The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. Ive played with the trigger a good bit and its still a glock trigger. Is it safe to shoot? May be the recoil spring not being in the right seat position. The slide goes into battery, but the primer hits look off. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. Great info thank you. A Glock is one of the easiest pistols to work on and we have pleanty of content for you to learn more about this pistol. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. Powered by Invision Community. My Glock 21SF threaded barrel sucked for the first 100-200 rounds fired, but once it wore in it has been very good. Limp wristing one handed wasn't the issue as it happened with both hands first. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. 1. What Argyle said sounds about right. Thanks for the suggestion. I will look into it. It's great. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Then again, I would caution folks not to expect any new trigger or trigger part is going to be a simple drop in item. I am finding that especially when dry-firing, even when I am careful to let the slide "slam" shut, the slide hangs up right before lockup. 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